goobot
Apr 5, 03:56 PM
lmao when he was hitting it and a guy in the back round went NOOOO!!!!:D:D:D:D
robzr
Apr 12, 12:15 AM
I'm suprised nobody has mentioned 3 TB drives, you can get 7200 RPM 3TB drives for $179 or 5400 RPM 3TB drives for $149 these days, why not reduce the number of bays you need by ~50%.
It doesn't sound like you need incredibly high performance given that it's for archiving video and your internet uplink is only 1.5 MB.
You didn't mention your budget, if it's on the low side, I'd go with a Linux NAS, you could build the whole thing for under $4k.
$335 20-bay SATA chassis http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219033
$300 for 2x Intel SASUC8I 8 port SATA controllers
$80 for 4x SFF-8087 cables
$500 for a Mobo, RAM, CPU
$2100 for 14x 3TB 5400 RPM drives @ $149 each
$150 ~800watt quality power supply
$150 misc cooling fans & wiring, dvd drive
Run it RAID-6 with 2x hot spare on Linux. If afpd meets your performance expectations, you're good to go. I have a 10x 5200rpm 2TB RAID-6 linux NAS media server on a 3 or 4 year old low end athlon x2, I get 250 MBps on reads with software RAID-6. afpd is single threaded and will likely be a frustrating bottleneck for writes, it will hang during writes while it syncs to disk periodically. The above config would have no problem saturating gig ethernet during a read and come close to it during a write. Using it as a SAN via iSCSI may allow for higher performance, although you'd need to bounce incoming connections off another server.
So thats your low end, look into redundant X-Serves with DAS arrays for your high end (or EMC if you have a few hundred grand to blow).
Keep in mind RAID is not a replacement for backup, if you are not going to backup to external media at least consider a filesystem with extra space and snapshots, and maybe a second identical server you can replicate to. A higher quality chassis, redundant power supplies, hardware RAID, an X-Serve w/ DAS would be nice steps up.
Rob
Hello kind folks of MacRumors.com-
I am wishing for help and advice deciding what type of hardware to purchase for a 30TB server. It must meet the following requirements:
• 30TB RAID (Redundancy important for backup purposes)
• Remote Accessibility in that I would like to be able to pull files from it anywhere that I have an internet connection.
• Macintosh friendly– it does not need to run OS X Server, it just needs to connect without hassle to Macs.
This will be used for at my office for archiving video. We may want to use Final Cut Server to sort the files in the future. I have been tasked with building this setup and am hoping for suggestions from one of the brightest communities on the web. :D
Your time in responding is much appreciated.
:apple:
It doesn't sound like you need incredibly high performance given that it's for archiving video and your internet uplink is only 1.5 MB.
You didn't mention your budget, if it's on the low side, I'd go with a Linux NAS, you could build the whole thing for under $4k.
$335 20-bay SATA chassis http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219033
$300 for 2x Intel SASUC8I 8 port SATA controllers
$80 for 4x SFF-8087 cables
$500 for a Mobo, RAM, CPU
$2100 for 14x 3TB 5400 RPM drives @ $149 each
$150 ~800watt quality power supply
$150 misc cooling fans & wiring, dvd drive
Run it RAID-6 with 2x hot spare on Linux. If afpd meets your performance expectations, you're good to go. I have a 10x 5200rpm 2TB RAID-6 linux NAS media server on a 3 or 4 year old low end athlon x2, I get 250 MBps on reads with software RAID-6. afpd is single threaded and will likely be a frustrating bottleneck for writes, it will hang during writes while it syncs to disk periodically. The above config would have no problem saturating gig ethernet during a read and come close to it during a write. Using it as a SAN via iSCSI may allow for higher performance, although you'd need to bounce incoming connections off another server.
So thats your low end, look into redundant X-Serves with DAS arrays for your high end (or EMC if you have a few hundred grand to blow).
Keep in mind RAID is not a replacement for backup, if you are not going to backup to external media at least consider a filesystem with extra space and snapshots, and maybe a second identical server you can replicate to. A higher quality chassis, redundant power supplies, hardware RAID, an X-Serve w/ DAS would be nice steps up.
Rob
Hello kind folks of MacRumors.com-
I am wishing for help and advice deciding what type of hardware to purchase for a 30TB server. It must meet the following requirements:
• 30TB RAID (Redundancy important for backup purposes)
• Remote Accessibility in that I would like to be able to pull files from it anywhere that I have an internet connection.
• Macintosh friendly– it does not need to run OS X Server, it just needs to connect without hassle to Macs.
This will be used for at my office for archiving video. We may want to use Final Cut Server to sort the files in the future. I have been tasked with building this setup and am hoping for suggestions from one of the brightest communities on the web. :D
Your time in responding is much appreciated.
:apple:
nanofrog
May 1, 04:38 PM
Well, anybody who needs a DP workstation, anyway (you can't do dual i7s). I suppose you can make this argument for SP machines (SP i7 vs. SP Xeon), but two things:
1. SP workstation Xeons practically have pricing parity with their i7 equivalents, so it doesn't really matter much in the end. In reality, they're the same processors, only one has ECC memory support and one does not. Also, the W35xx Xeons run on the same Intel X58 chipsets the i7-9xx chips do. Overall manufacturing cost is essentially the same.
Example: The Xeon W3530 (2.8GHz) used on the base quad-core model is $294 (1000-part tray quantity) from Intel. Its i7 equivalent, the i7-930 is priced identically, at $294. Spec for spec, these chips are IDENTICAL, save for the Xeon's ECC memory support.
Exactly.
Apple's charging quite a premium for the SP systems vs. other vendors. DP systems are far closer in costs, but the PC versions do offer better warranties, better graphics choices (professional grade, not just consumer), and additional options (if purchased from the system vendor for a single point of contact for support needs).
2. As mentioned before, workstation computer buyers expect workstation-class hardware, not consumer-class. So that means Xeons, ECC memory and a heavy duty platform.
Generally speaking, this is true. But ECC isn't needed by all workstation users, such as creative professionals (don't use software based on recursive algorithms). Thus such users don't actually require Xeons (SP systems; no choice for DP models) or ECC memory of any kind (well built, reliable system Yes, but an Enthusiast Desktop part and standard non-ECC memory would suffice).
Perhaps the biggest anomaly with Mac Pros is Apple's continued use of consumer-grade GPUs in their configurations. With PC workstations, it's practically given that you'll get a FireGL or a Quadro. But that's an entirely different discussion...
In terms of using consumer grade graphics cards in workstations, it's definitely an anomaly.
As per whether or not it's a separate discussion, it would depend on the user's specific needs IMO. ;)
1. SP workstation Xeons practically have pricing parity with their i7 equivalents, so it doesn't really matter much in the end. In reality, they're the same processors, only one has ECC memory support and one does not. Also, the W35xx Xeons run on the same Intel X58 chipsets the i7-9xx chips do. Overall manufacturing cost is essentially the same.
Example: The Xeon W3530 (2.8GHz) used on the base quad-core model is $294 (1000-part tray quantity) from Intel. Its i7 equivalent, the i7-930 is priced identically, at $294. Spec for spec, these chips are IDENTICAL, save for the Xeon's ECC memory support.
Exactly.
Apple's charging quite a premium for the SP systems vs. other vendors. DP systems are far closer in costs, but the PC versions do offer better warranties, better graphics choices (professional grade, not just consumer), and additional options (if purchased from the system vendor for a single point of contact for support needs).
2. As mentioned before, workstation computer buyers expect workstation-class hardware, not consumer-class. So that means Xeons, ECC memory and a heavy duty platform.
Generally speaking, this is true. But ECC isn't needed by all workstation users, such as creative professionals (don't use software based on recursive algorithms). Thus such users don't actually require Xeons (SP systems; no choice for DP models) or ECC memory of any kind (well built, reliable system Yes, but an Enthusiast Desktop part and standard non-ECC memory would suffice).
Perhaps the biggest anomaly with Mac Pros is Apple's continued use of consumer-grade GPUs in their configurations. With PC workstations, it's practically given that you'll get a FireGL or a Quadro. But that's an entirely different discussion...
In terms of using consumer grade graphics cards in workstations, it's definitely an anomaly.
As per whether or not it's a separate discussion, it would depend on the user's specific needs IMO. ;)
Kane08
Apr 4, 04:32 PM
/me is hoping Nokia and MS can get their &$?t together and come up with an alternative to Apple. Not that I would switch, but if I had to I'd rather go to another monolithic system than the fragmented mess that is the Android landscape
True, but M$ has already announced that nokia won't be it's only manufacturer, and vice versa, nokia is still pursuing other options as well. Personally, I think the HP/Palm has more potential to take on Apple as a unified system, but they don't have a good track record so far...
True, but M$ has already announced that nokia won't be it's only manufacturer, and vice versa, nokia is still pursuing other options as well. Personally, I think the HP/Palm has more potential to take on Apple as a unified system, but they don't have a good track record so far...
Amanda84
Jun 9, 11:58 PM
When you buy one at these stores, how do they activate it or know if your up for an upgrade?
conch575
Apr 13, 02:36 AM
How sad, I could have had that iPad.. Could you imagine being that iPad, being so excited to make someone's life become so awesome, then you get blended... Lucky iPad's don't have feelings, or do they?
maconservative
May 4, 05:01 PM
I'm on 4.2.1 and I don't see myself changing until 5!:D
^This
:apple:
^This
:apple:
KingCrimson
Apr 29, 12:26 PM
The flip of it, is you have great Apple products to enjoy :)
No kidding since July I've bought the following products:
Apple Remote
MAC OS X 10.6.3 SNOW LEOPARD
Wireless keyboard
Mac Mini
Magic trackpad
iPad G1
iPod Touch 4G 64GB
iPod Nano 16GB
iPad 2
Airport Express - Airplay is really cool. Nice to have my entire library now available for streaming.
No kidding since July I've bought the following products:
Apple Remote
MAC OS X 10.6.3 SNOW LEOPARD
Wireless keyboard
Mac Mini
Magic trackpad
iPad G1
iPod Touch 4G 64GB
iPod Nano 16GB
iPad 2
Airport Express - Airplay is really cool. Nice to have my entire library now available for streaming.
Kar98
Apr 6, 01:36 PM
If this means I can finally use the same online calendar (either Google's or Windows Live, I don't care which) with Outlook 2011 and I'll be happy. Otherwise, I don't care.
Gamoe
Apr 28, 12:53 PM
So are these guys getting a fair trial? Are they exempt from cruel and unusual punishment? Oh, that's right, that little lack of human rights thing...
I really think Apple should step up and make sure these guys aren't treated unfairly or overly harshly, even *if* they leaked the design. Frankly, that would be the *only* course of action for a civilized company like Apple to do.
I really think Apple should step up and make sure these guys aren't treated unfairly or overly harshly, even *if* they leaked the design. Frankly, that would be the *only* course of action for a civilized company like Apple to do.
Foggy
Oct 17, 10:39 AM
If this is indeed the new iCal i will be happy, just open up the old ical next to that picture then you will see what i mean.
Other than the movement of the search, day/week/month buttons and a move from the brushed metal to a more even grey I cant really see any differences....I am however basing this off screenshots on the Apple site as I dont have my MBP here atm.
Other than the movement of the search, day/week/month buttons and a move from the brushed metal to a more even grey I cant really see any differences....I am however basing this off screenshots on the Apple site as I dont have my MBP here atm.
HyperZboy
Apr 29, 01:43 PM
Yes, Apple is a kind of Big Brother. They strictly control what people get to do with their devices. Some might call it censorship.
And what does Stewart complain about?
That they got mad at the guy who, well, paid a stranger to get his hands on their property and then even disassembled it?
Imagine losing your iPhone. The guy who finds it doesn't return it and sells it instead. And another guy takes it apart to look inside. You'd be mad, too. ;) Even if it wasn't a super secret candy pooping prototype.
QUESTION: Would the police in your town break down the door of someone who stole your cell phone?
ADMIT IT... Answer? NOPE!
And please let's go down the trade secrets route, we're not talking anything breakthrough here or nuclear technology. This was a crazed over-reaction by both local police authorities and Apple and they deserve to be roundly ridiculed, lambasted, and criticized for this complete waste of tax dollars and destruction of property and home invasion, all for a lost cell phone by a drunk guy in a bar.
And what does Stewart complain about?
That they got mad at the guy who, well, paid a stranger to get his hands on their property and then even disassembled it?
Imagine losing your iPhone. The guy who finds it doesn't return it and sells it instead. And another guy takes it apart to look inside. You'd be mad, too. ;) Even if it wasn't a super secret candy pooping prototype.
QUESTION: Would the police in your town break down the door of someone who stole your cell phone?
ADMIT IT... Answer? NOPE!
And please let's go down the trade secrets route, we're not talking anything breakthrough here or nuclear technology. This was a crazed over-reaction by both local police authorities and Apple and they deserve to be roundly ridiculed, lambasted, and criticized for this complete waste of tax dollars and destruction of property and home invasion, all for a lost cell phone by a drunk guy in a bar.
lPHONE
Feb 11, 06:08 PM
iPhone/iPad apps work on Mac, ftw. :D
notwelby
Mar 5, 11:47 AM
http://www.abload.de/img/bildschirmfotou9k8.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=bildschirmfotou9k8.jpg)
I want your bowtie theme! What's it called?
I want your bowtie theme! What's it called?
chrisfromalbany
Apr 19, 12:55 PM
That's not how steam works. When you purchase something through steam, you can download and install it as many times as you want. If your computer crashes, all you have to do is reinstall steam log into your account and redownload it. This is one of the reasons why steam is so popular.
as far as the price. $50 for games is standard, especially for pc ( and I guess now mac ). It costs millions of dollars to make and promote a game. Most games for consoles are $60 and there PC counterpart are $50 because both microsoft and sony take $10 off each sale. If you are concerned with the length of the game, go read a few reviews and they will all tell you the game is much much longer then the original, plus it includes a co-op mode with different levels. $50 seems pretty good to me.
Also, it's supply/demand. Millions of people are going to go out and spend $50 on the game, so why not sell it at $50? The nice thing about steam is, if you can find it cheaper elsewhere, you can still install it on your PC/Mac and play it through steam. But a lot of people are willing to pay the $5 extra to get the convenience of not needing to ship or wait in a line to buy the game.
the streaming distribution of the game is much cheaper then phyiscal copy distribution. I just saying they can add an incentive to make people download it, and they make more MONEY. Which is a given they are making alot more per digital copy sold compared to phyiscal copy sold. There is sizible production cost with making phyiscal copy, distributing to retailers, and then giving cut to retailer who selling it. Especially as the title gets older and retailer take more on each sale.
Currently, I noted that it is cheaper to buy physical copy then it is to buy digital copy. That shouldn't be the case. And I believe eventually wont be the case in future for software. I not debating that there are costs involved with making these games, I am debating what the streaming model should look like. It show be cheaper.:o
as far as the price. $50 for games is standard, especially for pc ( and I guess now mac ). It costs millions of dollars to make and promote a game. Most games for consoles are $60 and there PC counterpart are $50 because both microsoft and sony take $10 off each sale. If you are concerned with the length of the game, go read a few reviews and they will all tell you the game is much much longer then the original, plus it includes a co-op mode with different levels. $50 seems pretty good to me.
Also, it's supply/demand. Millions of people are going to go out and spend $50 on the game, so why not sell it at $50? The nice thing about steam is, if you can find it cheaper elsewhere, you can still install it on your PC/Mac and play it through steam. But a lot of people are willing to pay the $5 extra to get the convenience of not needing to ship or wait in a line to buy the game.
the streaming distribution of the game is much cheaper then phyiscal copy distribution. I just saying they can add an incentive to make people download it, and they make more MONEY. Which is a given they are making alot more per digital copy sold compared to phyiscal copy sold. There is sizible production cost with making phyiscal copy, distributing to retailers, and then giving cut to retailer who selling it. Especially as the title gets older and retailer take more on each sale.
Currently, I noted that it is cheaper to buy physical copy then it is to buy digital copy. That shouldn't be the case. And I believe eventually wont be the case in future for software. I not debating that there are costs involved with making these games, I am debating what the streaming model should look like. It show be cheaper.:o
mkjellman
Oct 12, 10:05 PM
what i'd like to know, even though someone would have to break the NDA further, is if the Finder has the same 10.4.6 string in its "get info" information. I think that another seed with the same build of Finder means that something big must be in the works.
and yes, posting screenshots of iCal would be great for all but it is strictly against the NDA to even post that a new build has been distributed.
and yes, posting screenshots of iCal would be great for all but it is strictly against the NDA to even post that a new build has been distributed.
Eraserhead
Oct 20, 01:39 AM
Actually, their stock isn't too bad... $426.06/share :eek: Apple was only at $79/share :rolleyes:
Share Price is not proportional to company value because companies have different numbers of shares.
Share Price is not proportional to company value because companies have different numbers of shares.
Ttownbeast
Jul 29, 11:07 PM
Budweiser is basically a light rice wine with hops as bittering agents which is better served cold than hot unlike like traditional rice wines such as sake. I doubt it even fits into the lager category but it has been sold as beer traditionally for a long time here. I haven't had a Bud in a few years myself nor do I miss it all that much.
I prefer it's cheaper cousin from the same corporation Busch--there is less hangover. When I go for domestics in the wide range of alcoholic beverages of low gravity I have two preferences those two are Yeunling and Henry's otherwise a nice Scmhidts hits the spot on a warm summer evening. For Imports I like having my Guiness with a scoop of Breyers Ice cream in a float, my Fosters alone, my Angostrua with seafood, my Golsh with any kind of Wurst sausage...pairing is damned important.
I prefer it's cheaper cousin from the same corporation Busch--there is less hangover. When I go for domestics in the wide range of alcoholic beverages of low gravity I have two preferences those two are Yeunling and Henry's otherwise a nice Scmhidts hits the spot on a warm summer evening. For Imports I like having my Guiness with a scoop of Breyers Ice cream in a float, my Fosters alone, my Angostrua with seafood, my Golsh with any kind of Wurst sausage...pairing is damned important.
Snowy_River
Oct 18, 02:29 PM
Could you imagine...
This device is a stand-alone video player, but is also designed to wirelessly partner to the iTV. When it is connected to the iTV, the iPod itself could work simply as a remote control, displaying all the appropriate controls on its screen to allow you to fast forward, rewind, pause, etc.
Now that would be cool!
This device is a stand-alone video player, but is also designed to wirelessly partner to the iTV. When it is connected to the iTV, the iPod itself could work simply as a remote control, displaying all the appropriate controls on its screen to allow you to fast forward, rewind, pause, etc.
Now that would be cool!
monaarts
Apr 12, 08:33 AM
Maybe this is news that the iPad 4 will be out this year instead of the iPad 3!!!
maflynn
Apr 29, 09:17 AM
He kind of hit the nail on the head with that diatribe. I especially liked the 1984 big brother reference. Quite appropriate as apple has been acting more like big brother and less "thinking different"
Sined
Apr 28, 01:29 PM
are you suggesting they will get the electric tablet?
+1
+1
zwida
Oct 12, 09:28 PM
Excellent. Can't wait to hear feedback about the new iCal interface, etc.
giganten
Mar 28, 01:22 AM
Does it have the new 65 nm chipset?
On temaxbox forum they say it is same parts as in the old units.
From IGN Article:
The new "Elite" console contains the same parts, processors and chips as the Core and Pro units, and is the same dimensions, only it's got an HDMI port on its back-side (in addition to the standard RGB port) and comes with a 120GB hard disc drive (HDD), cables and headset, all in black.
http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=516104
And is the hdmi alone worth to upgrade to the elite from the premium? You can get the 120Gb hdd as a stand-alone accessory.
And Sony responds: http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/13112/Sony-Responds-to-Xbox-360-Elite-Announcement/
On temaxbox forum they say it is same parts as in the old units.
From IGN Article:
The new "Elite" console contains the same parts, processors and chips as the Core and Pro units, and is the same dimensions, only it's got an HDMI port on its back-side (in addition to the standard RGB port) and comes with a 120GB hard disc drive (HDD), cables and headset, all in black.
http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=516104
And is the hdmi alone worth to upgrade to the elite from the premium? You can get the 120Gb hdd as a stand-alone accessory.
And Sony responds: http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/13112/Sony-Responds-to-Xbox-360-Elite-Announcement/
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